

Okay, both from photo on CD, or maybe even on floppy. The Tiger, obviously tweaked in Adobe Photodeluxe. Both photos Jan 2003, San Francisco Zoo. Since they are B&W I assume they were with the Pentax P-30, and the Ricoh would have been loaded with colour. I think this is before I had the ZXL, but they came out in 2002, so this may have been the newer Pentax, and the Ricoh would have been laying in state.